The Dynamite Roundtable #4 - AEW Dynamite 07.04.21


Welcome to the AEW Dynamite Roundtable, where Pro Wrestling Musings' contributors share their thoughts on the biggest talking points arising from AEW Dynamite. Please note writer's views are their own.

This week's contributors are:

- Wrestling Poet: @WrestlingRhymes [WP]

- Gareth Ford-Elliot: @RHWGareth [GFE]

- Ryan Gorneault: @RyanGorneault [RG] - Sergei Alderman: @SergeiAlderman [SA]

- Daisy Foster: @boutmachines [DF]

- Anthony Bennett: @AnthonyDownUnda [AB]

- Craig William: @CraigPWMusings [CW]


1) ‘Hangman’ Adam Page further established himself as No. 1 Contender with a win over Max Caster on Dynamite. How long before we see the inevitable Omega vs Hangman match for the world title?


[GFE] It felt perfect for Hangman vs Omega to come at All Out given that is where Hangman has always suffered his big losses. But it currently feels to me that he is the one they’re building for Double or Nothing.


However, I have a piece of fantasy booking that gets us out of this pickle. There are various ways you can get there but in short; last year Omega first teased a heel turn in a trio's match teaming with The Young Bucks against Jurassic Express. In my scenario you do this trios match again but this time Omega looks to bully Jungle Boy and instead of questioning him, The Bucks reluctantly help Omega. You could even have Nick Jackson vs Jungle Boy which would bang and build to Jungle Boy vs Omega at Double or Nothing.


The fault in this theory is that Jungle Boy isn't really a PPV headlining talent yet. But I want it's a nice dream. Maybe more appropriate for a TV main event. The prospect of Jungle Boy versus heel Kenny Omega is just mouth-watering.


[CW] This is a really interesting question. Omega has a few things going on right now and is very far away from Page, narratively. Page on the other hand is rather treading water. How we get to Page/Omega is unclear.


The Get the Table WhatCulture podcast suggested that Page won’t want to be the number one contender at this time due to his past with Omega and the Elite. Having just put his pieces back together with some help from the Dark Order, he’ll be comfortable where he is and won’t wish to leave his comfort zone too soon. This is a fascinating perspective that I hope they explore thoughtfully.


Adam Page has brought thoughtful storytelling to the wrestling world with much of his narrative work thus far. I want sensitive conversations with Jon Silver where he works through his memories of failure against both Jericho and Omega. I also want to see him tempted by a return to the Elite as Omega tries to neutralise a massive threat.


[WP] I’m quite surprised that they are already talking about Hangman going for the AEW Title as there seems to be so much else going on with Kenny Omega at the moment. I would hate for the build to this match to get lost in amongst the 67 different feuds Kenny is already in right now.

Similarly, though the current Elite storyline could serve as a fascinating background to Hangman’s climb back up to facing the champ. It feels as if an Elite story, complete with heel Young Bucks, cannot fail to include Hangman Page.


Personally, I’d like to see Hangman get a couple more big wins, and more importantly big performances, under his belt. The Caster match was only okay at best, and Hangman’s previous major win was the uninspiring victory over Matt Hardy at Revolution. We all know just how good Hangman is, but I think I’d like to see that a bit more on show before we see him building towards what will hopefully be an epic with Kenny Omega.


[SA] I’m also surprised that they’re hinting at a World title shot for Page. Maybe it’s just talk right now, and Kenny will claim that he beat Page too recently to owe him a shot. Or there’ll be a #1 contender’s match for Page to get screwed out of to set up his next big feud. It’s too soon to say, I think.


[RG] Assuming that Christian Cage and Eddie Kingston are both in line for a championship opportunity as previously teased (both matches are probably worthy of main-eventing a pay-per-view) I could see them wait until Full Gear. Kingston seems like the best option to have fight against Omega, which gives Cage enough time to establish himself in the company and rack up enough wins to be deserving of a title shot for All Out.


Obviously, Omega would win against both Kingston and Cage, but the point is, this plan gives Adam Page a little more than half a year to secure some big wins and get to a higher position in on AEW totem pole. He has cooled off so much over the past year, so the process of him regaining that fire will take him a little while. An added bonus of waiting until Full Gear to give Page the opportunity for Omega’s championship is that they get to fight on the (just about) one year anniversary of their second singles match (first in AEW).

2) What is happening with Sting, Lance Archer, Scorpio Sky and Ethan Page?


[GFE] I'm not quite sure what on Earth is going on here. But I have a weird feeling that they might be aligning Archer with Sting and Darby Allin. Sting spoke down to Jake Roberts and hinted that he is the one holding Archer back. No idea what they're planning but I feel like they hinted at that.


[CW] Who cares… Sorry but I’m struggling with Scorpio Sky. His tag run was tremendous, but I’ve never been interested in his singles stuff. Ethan Page is yet to catch my attention. I love Lance Archer in general but I’m struggling with him at the moment. I would like to see more all-action singles matches involving Archer, he’s being wasted at the moment. In fact, I believe he could even do a wonderful job of ‘bring on all comers’ TNT Champion.


[WP] This all feels very messy at the moment. Archer gunning for the TNT championship makes sense, and they could easily play off the Sting and Jake Roberts dynamic to help build that. I think Archer would make a great next TNT champ as well, and in fact needs that title win to re-legitimise him after a string of losses on the big stage.


But where do Sky and Page fit in? One has already lost a TNT title match in recent weeks and the other has only been here for about a month. Neither really make sense as opponents for Darby Allin, and in a packed tag-title scene it seems odd to try and set up a new team at this stage.


Feels like an example of AEW trying to do 100 things, when maybe just a few would do.


[DF] I don’t have many good things to say about this. I watched Ethan Page livestream on YouTube about a week after Revolution, and he chatted excitedly about finally being able to work as a singles wrestler after being type-cast as a tag-team contender for so long. Scorpio Sky has never interested me with his babyface work, and I was eagerly anticipating a heel turn so that I could stop falling asleep whenever he popped up on screen.


It’s disappointing, I think, to pair these two competent singles guys together. Ethan Page has the potential to do some stellar solo work, and the last thing AEW really needs right now is more tag teams. With a tag division so stacked, why create a group out of these two?


[SA] I mean, it’s pretty clear to me, that this is about Lance wanting a shot at Sting. Could lead to a regular in-ring match, or a cinematic back at Lance and Jake’s white-trash paradise. Either way, Darby seems to have his own stuff going on. I don’t see any reason to think Page & Sky’s Statler & Waldorf act are related at all!

3) Red Velvet vs Jade Cargill comes next week. How do you see this playing out for both performers moving forward?


[CW] It’ll be a big test for Jade Cargill, her first proper singles match on the big stage. Everything she has done thus far has been excellent but a singles match on TV is a microscope. I would expect things to go well due to the presence of her opponent, Red Velvet, who have grabbed her opportunity with both hands in recent weeks.


[WP] Cargill has to win, and I think has to win dominantly at the end. Red Velvet can play the very plucky underdog, and from the little I’ve seen of her she will play that role very well. But when the end comes, it needs to be brutal and it needs to be decisive.


As I’ve said before it’s far too early for Cargill to be looking at the title, but she needs to be built as this presence in the background of the title scene that looms over the other competitors.

As for Red Velvet she can easily eat a loss here and fight her way back up the ranks. Perhaps even to be a contender to Cargill if and when she does win the big one.


[AB] I’m looking forward to this, I feel it’s been a good short story. It will defiantly be a test for both the ladies, but I have faith because both have looked strong. Jade needs to win but Velvet can still look good.

[RG] I am SO excited for this match. These two exude charisma and have been excellent promos during their collective times in AEW. In terms of wrestling ability, neither of them are the best, but they don’t need to be because they literally have everything else they need to be successful in the wrestling industry.


In the grand scheme of things, neither have been wrestling for that long; if Cagematch is to be trusted, and is up to date, Red Velvet has only had 76 career matches, and we already know Jade Cargill is only two matches into her career. For having competed in such a relatively small number of matches, those two are damn good in the ring, so I have no doubt their match will be pretty great.


I imagine both competitors will be major players in the company’s Woman’s Division, but considering that Cargill has been booked a lot more dominantly than her opponent, I imagine she’ll win the match. Velvet doesn’t need the win as long as somewhere down the line (preferably sooner than later) she picked up a win against a more established wrestler.


4) After defeating JD Drake, Darby Allin puts his title on the line against Matt Hardy in a Falls Count Anywhere match. Given there’s no disqualification, what do you envisage for this match?


[CW] I like Matt Hardy on AEW Dynamite, I like the character and I like the role he is fulfilling of mid-card mob-boss. However, I don’t want to see him in one-on-one singles matches, even with plunder. Multi-man matches are a different thing, he fits just fine there but there are so many more interesting opponents for Darby. Give us Wardlow/Allin, Johnson/Allin or even Jungle Boy/Allin.


[WP] This stipulation gives me a lot more hope for this match than a pure singles match would have done. We know Darby Allin can do incredible things in a No DQ environment, and assuming that Matt Hardy doesn’t concuss himself again, AEW should be able to protect him with the various interventions from Matt’s army of knobheads.


Having said all of that I would rather see Allin against any of Butcher, Blade or Private Party, and this Matt Hardy match doesn’t feel like it’s going to kick-start what has been a bit of a faltering TNT title run (although credit to JD Drake who looked like he was ready to step up when needed).

[DF] It really says something that my first thought about this match was “I’m glad this is pre-recorded”. Like Craig said above, I am not all too keen on seeing Hardy in singles competition anymore. Unfortunately, he drags down the talent that he’s wrestling with. I’m not sure why they keep pairing him with the likes of young, athletic and flashy wrestlers like Darby, Guevara and Hangman; unfortunately, at this stage of his career, he can’t believably keep up.